I believe that once the midterms are over that both Biden and Harris will be impeached. Putting a republican into the White House. That Republican could be Trump. All the house would need to do is appoint Trump the the position. Have you heard this around were you live?
Author:Old Guy 5/12/2022 2:48:16 PM
Reply to: 2729150
I have also talked to people with the same outlook, Reason I asked, was it just here or nation wide?
Locally there is a military group that has been training just in case they try to steal the election again.
You are correct, something needs to be done, this situation can't go on. I am praying that mid-terms and investigations that will follow, will straighten things out.
You read it here, again and again- the extreme right is planning to +3/-0
Author:TheCrow 5/12/2022 3:23:31 PM
Reply to: 2729174
"I have also talked to people with the same outlook, Reason I asked, was it just here or nation wide?
"Locally there is a military group that has been training just in case they try to steal the election again.
"You are correct, something needs to be done, this situation can't go on. I am praying that mid-terms and investigations that will follow, will straighten things out."
You read it here, again and again: the extreme right is prepared to overthrow the Constitutionally elected government-
They know better than you!
That 'they' is, in their mind, better than any 'you' or any combination of 'you'. Everybody loses when that happens.
January 6 was the flash in the pan, next time will be the real thing.
There will be American blood on the ground before the decade is over.
"Democracy depends on the consent of the losers. For most of the 20th century, parties and candidates in the United States have competed in elections with the understanding that electoral defeats are neither permanent nor intolerable. The losers could accept the result, adjust their ideas and coalitions, and move on to fight in the next election. Ideas and policies would be contested, sometimes viciously, but however heated the rhetoric got, defeat was not generally equated with political annihilation. The stakes could feel high, but rarely existential. In recent years, however, beginning before the election of Donald Trump and accelerating since, that has changed."
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Trumpists want a strongman to overturn elections? Good possibility that they can make it happen. Joe Biden will look like a divine gift after that happens.
WHAT ELECTION WAS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONSTITUTION +3/-1
Author:TheCrow 5/12/2022 4:45:22 PM
Reply to: 2729178
Once the election is certified in Congress, it is irretrievably, irreversibly done. Piss and moan all you want, Joe Biden is POTUS. The end.
You can make the case for different election rules in the future, but it doesn't change the fact Biden was elected.
Trumpists remind of the 'Lost Cause' in the South, who didn't really lose the Civil War except for Yankee wealth, numbers, industrialization, etc. Trump lost.
This democracy relies on certain rules and acceptance of the result. You can look at previous elections in which the declared winner lost the popular election and deny credibility of the election. No matter how you slice it, Trump lost 2020 and arguably 2016. But the opposition, a demonstrable majority, peacefully accepted and endured Trump's administration. And now it's done, bye by, so long.
Put on your big boy pants.
Or take up arms and die in dedicated protest. And you will DIE in that case, a treasonous traitor.
I guess you woulda hated George Washington ! +2/-0
Author:TheCrow 5/13/2022 12:37:56 PM
Reply to: 2729245
"I guess you woulda hated George Washington !"
That's hilarious. You equate your insurrection against a legitimately elected American government to resisting an oppressive king's imperialist, imposed will.
Your Dear Leader, His Highness Donald the First believed himself above the will of the people. That's what January 6 was about- creating chaos in America and the election process so he could declare an emergency extension to his period in office.
The Donald my not have directly incited the insurrection but he was very happy to see it happen. Somehow it made him feel less a loser:
2016 Popular vote: Trump- 62,984,828 (46.1%); Hillary- 65,853,514 (48.2%)
America doesn't fill the presidency with a direct popular vote, Trump's minority carried the electoral college.
Trump's claimed 2020 'stolen election' was even more lopsided: Trump's popular vote total 74,216,154 (46.9%) lost to Biden's clear majority of 81,268,924 (51.3%).
Trumpists should be happy to take that. The polls predicted a much bigger defeat. Only candidate Trump, even as an incumbent, could get Joe Biden elected.
Open mouth, close eyes and swallow whatever Trump presents- TrumpeRINO frog boys.
( communist supporting ) You lie. Cite one time I praised communism, Communism or socialism. Never happened.
Author:Old Guy 5/13/2022 1:42:35 PM
Reply to: 2729220
You know for fact that the election violated the constitution. We post back and forth about it. You understood the links explaining how the courts decided the constitution was violated. You determined and posted that the votes obtained illegally should be counted. You 100% know that the election was not honest. How can you as a human keep posting a lie?